No James, not many. Most people are too skeptical, and too afraid of stepping away from what they feel safe with. But enough will to give you something to do, enough to keep you wanting to write with us.
Not many people have been interested in the Padgett Messages.
No, and for the same reasons. Not to many people were interested in me when I was on Earth, and for the same reasons. Not to many people want to live true, being too scared to change, too scared to face the truth if they find out something that makes them feel bad, of which most of what Mary and I say will do. But we are not writing this with you for people now as such James, it’s more for people in future who will come seeking answers to their lives that are no longer making any sense to them. There are a lot of such people now, however they are still wanting to find a better alternative to what they are used to, they don’t want to embrace the whole truth of themselves and come to understand that most of how they are is wrong. And many people will look at new things, even change what they will consider to be quite substantially, however it will still all be within their negative mind state. It will be nothing more than shuffling the same deck of cards rather than looking to find a new pack altogether.
And it’s been the same these past two thousand years in the mind spirit worlds. The majority of such spirits want to continue being how they are. And many of them are happy, so they believe, and content to grow in what they perceive the truth to be, which is only advancing their mind with minimal truth growth. And then out of such a huge number of spirits there is a steady, relatively small but constant flow of spirits that want to uncover the whole truth of themselves, and so being prepared to do whatever it takes to do so. And these spirits are attended to by the Celestial spirits, spirits who were once like themselves but have progressed up through all the mansion worlds into the Celestial spheres, offering them a new way, that which involves healing themselves of their negative and truth-denying states. Mary and I have been, up until relatively recently, busy with helping a lot of these spirits who come out of the mind mansion worlds and into the light of truth. But for the past two hundred years we’ve been gradually easing back on our personal and direct involvement with humanity.
And so this brings us to this point with you, the last of our direct communications in this manner with Earth during our age. We are no longer actively speaking with anyone else on Earth as we used to. Occasionally still we might make personal contact with a Divine Love group or one or two individuals who have embraced the Divine Love and are progressing toward embracing the doing of their healing, but soon we’ll stop these communications as well. And then when we’ve finished all we want to do with you, we’ll no longer have anything personal to do with humanity (excepting those people Mary spoke about whom we’ll contact in the future), our time with you finished with the closing of our spiritual age.
It was part of my Second Coming as in my re-revelation of truth to humanity. This now, and all we’ve done with you, is also part of that. It concludes all the truth Mary and I wish to impart to humanity, it being done in stages all in keeping with the limitations imposed on us. With James Padgett, Mary couldn’t have any say, we having to strictly adhere to the restrictions we adhered to when we were on Earth, but with you, as you’ve chosen to grow in truth, Mary is able to have her say. And by you allowing and wanting Mary to come to you, and for you to be open to what she and both of us say, we’re able to complete our revelation to Earth, this being down at the end of our age.
Shouldn’t it have been done at the beginning of your age?
Yes, and so you understand the level of restriction we’ve been placed under by not wanting to interfere with the Rebellion and Default in any way.
But aren’t you interfering with it then with me?
No because you and Marion have moved to embrace the whole truth of your negative states, this being solely of your own choosing and not influenced by us in any way. And because you have done this, then we have and are able to come to you and speak now as we are doing and about all of this.
But surely other people have chosen to heal themselves of their negative state.
Not as you both have James. And up until now it’s not been possible for anyone to do it anyway, not as you are both doing it. So we’ve not been able to impart such truths and information even if we’d have liked to.
And presumably you knew this is how it would happen all those years ago.
Okay, and so what about your coming again, The Urantia Book emphatically states that you will come again sometime in person, but it doesn’t say how or when. And if you are to, how will you, as you won’t be surely bestowing yourselves again.
No we won’t bestow ourselves again, as there is no need for that. And we can’t anyway. We’d affect our personality expression were we to become unconscious and be born to parents for them to raise us. That’s all been done, we’ve experienced our seven levels of universal bestowal as is pointed out in The Urantia Book. Now if we are to come again it will be as full adults, however we will not be coming again to inaugurate a spiritual age, that will be left to the future Avonal Daughters and Sons. But I will tell you, yes, Mary and I will at some time in the future, but it will be very distant future, that being when humanity has well and truly healed itself of its evilness, come again, which will be for a short time only, and as part of the celebration of the truth being triumphant over evil.
So there’s not much point anyone keeping an eye out for you in the immediate future.
So what about all the Christians who are hoping you’ll show up any moment, and no doubt all the ones in the mind mansion worlds, what will happen to them?
One day they’ll cease to wait, understanding that it’s not going to happen. Many of them in the mind mansion worlds have been waiting for their beloved messiah for aeons as it is, and many more are waiting for me, and they will wait, and time will pass, and one day, as it has also happened to a lot of them, their soul will start to wake them up to the truth of their folly.
So what about during these End Times, as all religions from what I can gather are awaiting and expecting the imminent arrival of their prophesied world leader.
And they will wait, and time will pass, and one day-
Okay, I get what you’re saying.
But there’s so many people waiting for you, you can’t let them down can you, they’ve been so faithful, steadfast in their conviction, belief and love of you...
I’m not letting them down James, as I’m only in the business of truth, and that part of it that enables one to ascend their soul to Paradise. I am not interested in fantasy and mind delusion. And for those people sincere in their conviction to begin their spiritual ascension to Paradise, I will deliver, I will not let them down, as many Celestial spirits will willing testify. But I will let people and spirits down if all they want to do is remain being evil - false and untrue. I don’t do anything to help you remain evil, I just won’t interfere in your evilness.
What about if we blow ourselves up, if we begin World War III?
It’s none of my business what you do. You can blow yourselves up and with my blessing. You can do whatever pleases you in your evilness. The Mother and Father have it all under control. There are certain guidelines unbeknownst to you that are always in operation and under which humanity is evolving its anti truth state. And there are legions of angels willing to serve you if such service is required to stop you blowing yourselves to bits, because you will be stopped before it gets to that point, for as I said, humanity is to remain on Earth for a long time to come, with the next big stage in its growth being the healing of its evilness.
I guess as you haven’t stepped in so far, and as we’ve still been allowed to drop atomic bombs on each other and develop such weapons of mass destruction, you won’t be doing so in future as you say.
I am not a controller James, I am only an uplifter - an uplifter of souls. I only came to Earth to impart truth and to demonstrate the Father loves all his children. And during my association with spirits from Earth who have striven to heal themselves of their negative state, I have done the same thing. I have never been involved in the politics of your world, I have observed those people and mind spirits who have sought control over the masses, but I have never interfered with them and never will. And nor has or will Mary.
If you feel the need to call upon us for help, love and care, then you will receive it from us via our Spirits of Truth when you aspire to live true to your soul. Other than that, we’ll have nothing to do with each other.
What about all those women who have given themselves to you?
They have given themselves to a fantasy Jesus, one of their own mind, not me the real person.
Does believing in you do anything for your soul growth?
No, only truth does anything for your soul growth. Whether you believe in me or not is immaterial. And it requires more than mere belief to advance your soul. And I am not going to come and save all those people who say they do believe in me. It’s all a game people have invented for themselves, the game called - Let’s be a Christian. There is no such thing as a Christian, that’s only based on mental belief. Being a true ‘Christian’ comes from being a brother or sister in truth, that being what you all naturally become as you grow in truth healing yourselves of your negative state. You are simply a soul, a child of loving Parents, and children from humanity of Urantia, you don’t need any other label. You are children of truth, and until you start to live such truth, you will never be happy, you will never feel truly loved, this being what you are all to realise through your lives of truth-rejection.
So it doesn’t matter what religion you are?
It does matter in so far as it helps define how you are rejecting truth, rejecting Mary and I, and rejecting the truth of yourself. But in the context of evolving your soul in truth to Paradise to meet and be with your Heavenly Parents, no, it means nothing. All religions do contain a smattering of truth, all are worthwhile in that respect, but as all have been evolved out of the wrongness, none of them offer you the true way of salvation. And even though they all oppose each other, believing one is better than the other, they are all the same in that they are keeping all their adherents under the spell of evil. Such mental systems are heavily controlling, they are not personality liberating, they work to keep the individual depowered whilst maintaining the illusion they are empowering. They are systems that will have to go should humanity choose to fully embrace its growth of truth. And in time they will all go, and one day they will be relegated to the long past dark history of Earth, a time when evil reigned supreme, and the individual under the illusion of having freedom, lived greatly deluding himself that such systems were the spiritual means to an end. All they do is keep you imprisoned within your untruth. They hold a carrot of truth out to you, a promise, but never fulfil it. And they can’t fulfil it, as evil and wrongness and denial of truth by its very nature is anti truth, so one will never get anywhere within such systems if one is serious about growing in truth.
Thank you Jesus.