Mary: I will James. All souls are created with the ability to express two personalities in Creation.
Is that half each, half of the soul?
No, it’s not like that, they are two full and complete and individual personalities, both of which feel they have a full soul, and even at times early in ones growth of truth, a separate soul; yet as one advances or progresses in ones growth of truth, the same soul. Jesus and I, as well as you James and all people on Earth, have a soul that is capable - if I can put it that way - of growing in truth, or as the Urantia Book puts it: evolving in truth. Truth, the growth or ‘accumulation’ of it, is what ‘sustains’ our soul, and experience is what ‘feeds’ it. As we experience, so certain light which you cannot see is liberated on higher levels, some of which goes into our soul. And that experiential or personality-light, then remains within the soul and at the same time triggering more existential soul-light to be expressed, or, to come forth into Creation. And as your soul-light interacts with Creation - interacting with your will in the universe, so you feel moved or inclined to act according to your feelings, and in doing so have more experiences. And from these new experiences, new light from your personality expression returns to your soul activating yet more soul-light to be liberated from your soul, thereby generating yet more experiences. And part of this process, if your will is intent on growing in truth - if you are intent on growing in truth, will be to uncover along the way, all such truth that arises from your experiences, thus enabling you to know what your life is about, what you are about, and what your is place in Creation. Your soul is what you really are, it’s what in a sense we are evolving or growing into: the ultimate expression of our soul, however that expression is to be expressed through our personalities. So the more we grow in truth, the more we express our personality, and the more our soul evolves in the light and truth of our personality experiences.
So Mary, we have a soul and it’s always with us?
In truth James, as I said, you are your soul. So yes, it’s always with you - you are it. It and you, you being one of the personality expressions of it, can never be separated. And were such a thing to happen, if it were possible, you’d cease to be.
And from what I’ve read, what some of the Celestial spirits in the Padgett Messages said, they can sense souls before they incarnate.
Yes. The souls are created, if you like, awaiting their incarnation, and such souls can be perceived by higher spirits and angels and other universal personalities before they commence their lives in flesh.
Are souls created as required, or are they created in batches like angels, such as all the souls that are to incarnate on Earth all being created at once?
It’s not that, for as you see, where souls are there is no time or space, only soul. It’s not like how it is in Creation. And really no one knows what the place souls reside in is like. However universal understanding does suggest souls are created as required, but also individually and in batches as you say. You see, you could say that on the level of soul, every soul that is to be brought into existence is already in existence, that it’s not even created as we understand something being created - it having an actual beginning as such; or, that no soul exists until its time of incarnation, this being what the higher spirits sense.
Soul is God, and even though our souls are not God’s Soul, still for all intents and purposes, they exist in the same place, if there is such a place. And where the ‘soul realm’, as it might be called, is, I have no idea. There are many over here in spirit who speculate on such things, however Jesus and I do not. We simply understand that in time, if God wants us to know such things, then we’ll know them, and as Jesus said, there’s a lot of time left in eternity.
So you and Jesus don’t know everything?
Oh no, far from it. We are the most advanced-in-truth souls in Nebadon, however there is a vast amount we still don’t know. And it would be rather boring to know it all with eternity stretching out far ahead of us. And being truth evolving souls, as Jesus and I and you all are, we live constantly growing in truth, which is the thrill of life. One never knows what experiences one is next to have, and how they will affect you, what truth they will give rise to.
Mary, it’s often said that when we die our soul goes with us into spirit.
I know James, but it’s not true. The soul never goes anywhere, it doesn’t have to, nor can it. It always remains where it is, in its soul-place or soul-realm - ‘soul-land’ as you’ve called it. It’s the spirit part of the personality that moves between dimensions, planes, worlds, spheres on Earth and in spirit. As you understand, you are currently a spirit in flesh, your soul is manifesting you, your personality, that being the masculine aspect of your soul, into a spiritual and physical body simultaneously. And when you die, all that happens is you drop the physical part, with your consciousness waking up in your spirit form. And for most people, when you are in your physical bodies you are unaware of also being in your spirit body. You can’t be in a physical body without also being in a spiritual body. The physical doesn’t exist by itself in this respect. And your physical body is the physical expression of your personality, as your spiritual body is part of your spiritual expression of your personality. You are personality in Creation, your personality being more than just whether you’re an ‘outgoing personality’ or a ‘happy-go-lucky’ personality, or a ‘depressed or nervous’ personality. Personality, your personality, is all of you that’s being expressed in Creation by your soul. So it includes all your physical, emotional, mental, psychic, will and spiritual aspects. All your consciousness, subconscious, all your thoughts and beliefs, all your feelings and emotions, all the etheric subtle bodies that link your higher and lower aspects of yourself and link your physical and spiritual bodies; they are all parts or attributes of your personality. Of your: soul-personality. You spiritual body is that which you express your truth through; and whilst currently in your physical body, the physical is simply a vehicle to provide you with experiences on Earth. And when you no longer need such physical experiences, that being determined by your soul, then you die, your ‘silver cord’ is cut by your attending guardian angel, or ‘angel of death’, and your consciousness moves to be awakened in your new spirit life in your spirit body. You wake up and carry on living, but in a spirit world or plane, no longer able to physically experience, but able to fully experience in spirit - in the spirit realms. Death is nothing to be feared of itself. It’s merely a transition from one level of existence to another.
Mary, why do some souls or people, have but a moment in the physical, whereas others a long life and all the rest in between? Why don’t we all have the same length of life?
Jesus: I’ll answer that James. It’s God’s way. It’s what God wants. It’s simply - how it is. And it’s for each of us to uncover the truth of ourselves, which means, the truth of our soul; which means, the truth God wants us to see. And as we do, so it comes to us that which we are to know about ourselves, life and God. And it’s a marvellous and wonderful process. And so for the person who only lives but a moment in the physical he or she will in time uncover the reasons why God wanted them to experience such a small amount of physical life, and it’s the same for the person who lives a full life as measured in the number of years. It’s a personal journey James, our growth of truth, even though we do most of it with our soulmate. And it should be with such a longing to know such things about oneself, that ones approaches life. For if one does, then other questions will arise, all helping you strive for yet more truth of yourself. You ask yourself: why do I have the life I have; why has or is God giving it to me; what is it that God wants me to understand about it; what truth will I derive from it. And in time all such understanding will come, that being the sheer beauty of it all. However whilst you might be in a time in your life that you don’t like, it can be very hard indeed, but in time that hardship and pain will pass, and opportunity will be given to you to find out the answers and truth to all your questions.
It’s not much fun when you don’t like any of your life.
No, and of course it’s not meant to be. As many people don’t like their lives and many wonder why it has to be so bad for them, this is what Mary and I would like to help you understand. We are now in a position to be able to do so, unlike how it was for us all those years ago when we were on Earth. We are now at liberty to reveal to you more understanding of what life in the physical and spiritual is all about, this being what we hope to achieve through our writings and messages with you James.
Jesus, as many people believe in reincarnation, how does what Mary said about the soul fit into their understanding of the soul?
It doesn’t, such people and many spirits in the mind mansion worlds don’t understand it at all in the light of what Mary told you. And if they did, they’d not believe in it. As you know James, there is no reincarnation. So it doesn’t matter what people or spirits say about it, as it’s all a fantasy, something to entertain themselves with in their minds.
So once the soul incarnates, that’s it, it never incarnates again?
It can’t. Souls are not created to do so. The soul incarnates both its ‘halves’, as you know they are often referred to, and those two personality expressions - and always one half being a man the other a woman - grow in their experiences of life, destined, when the time is right, to come together reunited for all time. And they will never be separated again once their soul-union, or reunion, has fully taken place, that being when both have attained the Celestial level of truth.
Does anything happen between the two people or spirits when they reach the Celestial level that makes them feel this union?
No, not specifically, it happens on a technical level. However when they both attain this level of truth, they will know as part of that truth, that forevermore will be remain as ‘one’. They will know beyond a shadow of doubt that they are meant for each other, and will never feel attracted to another. Their love for each other will only grow ever stronger, never diminishing, and they will slowly over the aeons come to know what it feels like existing in Creation as ‘two who are one’, that being, two personalities who are of the one same soul. And between them, as they express themselves to each other, so they will fulfil all the experience requirements of their soul, all that is needed to keep evolving their soul in truth. It’s the perfect union James, there is simply nothing else like it in Creation, and this one knows and comes to understand and feel with all ones heart and soul.
That being how you and Mary feel about each other?
When did you achieve soulmate union with Mary?
We were always of a Celestial level of truth, we were incarnated on that level. Only it took a little time for us to grow into it, or awaken into it you might say. We were both incarnated true and perfect, and so of the Celestial level, unlike all of you on Earth who are incarnated currently into the lowest level of truth, seven mansion worlds below that of the Celestial level.
When Mary and I came together in spirit after her death, we felt a quickening between us, our hearts opened quickly to each other, for in a way we had a lot of catching up to do. We should have of course awakened in truth hand in hand during our physical lives, but as this was not to be, so the imbalance was quickly rectified with the corresponding love between us coming about, being felt, and so expressed. It was a wonderful time for us. We left Nebadon together to go to Paradise there to meet with our Heavenly Mother and Father - our Heavenly Parents. Then upon our return to Nebadon we retired to our private quarters on Salvington where we are now communicating our thoughts to you that you are writing, there to spend about three months your time in uninterrupted company of each other. We talked solely of our love for each other and the Mother and Father as we felt such love coming into being. It was a wonderful time for us both.
Heavenly Mother and Father?
Yes James, this being perhaps the greatest part of our revelation to you. It was my role to reveal to humanity and the whole of Nebadon the existence of our Heavenly Father; Mary’s role the existence of our Heavenly Mother. In me is seen the Father, as indeed I am the spiritual father of all Nebadon. In Mary is seen the Mother, as she is the spiritual mother of our universe. And so had we been as equals on Earth, so humanity would now be longing to be at-one with God as its Heavenly Parents, both its Mother and Father, Two Personalities, that are of the One Same Soul - God.
So do you see, as you are created in the image of God, as are Mary and myself, so we are, as They - our Mother and Father - are, on the level of soul and personality. God is a SoulMate Pair, the absolute and ultimate pair, just as we are also a soulmate pair. So it’s not that God is God the Father and God the Mother who are two separate Souls, but They are of the same Soul, being Two Personality Expressions Of That Soul.
And if humanity feels it would like to relate to God as such, then you will see that you’ll start to feel very differently about God and about yourselves. And you’ll also be able to see how imbalanced you have become by putting all your focus on God as being only a Heavenly Father. God is more than just a Father to us all, God is also a Mother.
It does make a lot more sense. But it’s so heavily entrenched in us, how will we ever move to embracing God as both our Mother and Father?
Time, and from the leadings of your souls. You will be led to it through your feelings, those people and spirits who want to uncover the truth of themselves - the truth of their souls.
So it’s not that God is the Father, and the Earth, our Mother?
The Earth is the mother and father of physical nature, it’s the womb in which you are to begin your spiritual ascension of truth. It’s the womb you are to be born from (when you die) into higher lives of spirit as represented by the seven mansion worlds. And then upon your ascension of truth through such worlds you will attain a Celestial level of truth being able to live in the Celestial spheres, at which time you will have united with your soulmate and so be ready and able to relate to God in the same light, as a SoulMate - your Mother and Father of Paradise.
But what about the Urantia Book and the Padgett Messages, even the Bible, it’s all only the Heavenly Father.
Yes, because of the imposed restrictions and limitations under which Mary and I lived through our incarnation on Earth. These restrictions literally limiting that which we could reveal to you. And it being why we can now come to you and speak about such things, because these restrictions are being lifted. Humanity is soon to be free to advance in truth to higher levels should it wish, this being achieved as individuals choose to embrace such information that Mary and I can now talk about. It’s been a long time in coming, but the time has now arrived, it is arriving: the so-called long awaited spiritual new age is soon to commence. Humanity is currently in what can be termed the crossing over, or changing of, ages, this being reflected in all that you perceive to be as the End Times.
So the End Times have begun, and are real?
Yes, however mostly not as most people think they are.
James, we will speak more of such things later. It is now time for Mary and I to leave you. When you feel you want to write more, we’ll be with you. So until then my friend - goodbye from us both.
Thank you Jesus and Mary.