They are not the same James, however in each of their ways they give comfort, either directly or indirectly.
The true comforter is the Spirit of Truth (are the Spirits of Truth), because it helps you uncover the truth of yourself and of life through your own endeavours should you seek the truth; meaning, should you seek to live true to yourself.
As The Urantia Book points out, when the higher Descending Sons (and Daughters) of which Mary and I are one such pair, come to a world to reveal the truth required by its people, then as a parting gift to that world, and in Mary’s and my case, to our whole universe, upon our death and from our soul, is liberated what is known to be the Spirit of Truth, this Spirit of Truth being expressed individually by us. I liberated my Spirit of Truth upon my death and release from the physical, as did Mary release hers when she died. And together, united as one, they are ever present and always ready to help you should you be intent on uncovering the truth for yourself.
As we’ve told you, you need to use your feelings and not your mind to show you the way, and were you to look to your feelings, then they would lead you into uncovering the truth; and that being, all the truths you need to know that will enable you to live happy and fulfilled lives. So it’s right when it’s said the truth is within you, it is, contained within your soul, only you have to use your feelings to allow it come up within you so you can express or live it - be it.
So yours and Mary’s Spirits of Truth overshadow us all the time, is that what you mean by they are always with us? And they help us see the truth, that being, as you and Mary saw it. And it’s a partnership between both of you and us, for without your help through your Spirits of Truth, we’d not grow in truth.
So that’s why we need other Spirits of Truth to help us with our healing, those from another bestowal pair who’ve done their healing.
Yes, and it’s why people on Earth haven’t been able to grow in truth to any degree because of the lack of such a partnership, they having to wait until they’ve come to spirit where Mary and I could help them. So there’s a gap in your being helped by the Spirits of Truth, which the next age is all about rectifying. The gap being filled in now, so people can start to do what Mary and I are saying, which is why we’re coming at this time and why we’ve not come previously.
The Spirits of Truth are the stand in for Mary and I being with you in person and helping you to use your feelings to uncover the truth of yourself, life and God. We being individual finite personalities, just as you are, can’t be everywhere at once. So personally - in person - helping every person and spirit in our vast universe should they be seeking and longing for the truth is beyond us. However our Spirits of Truth can, as they being ‘our spirits’ can help you all at the same time as if we were with you helping you in person. So the ‘spirit of us’ is literally with you when you long for the truth through your feelings.
So it has nothing to do with just believing in you and ‘following’ you with our minds.
That’s right, it has all to do with your sincere longing to live true to yourself, then you are longing to be as Mary and I are, perfect and honouring all your feelings and growing in truth from expressing them, just as we do.
And the comfort we get from uncovering the truth for ourselves through our feelings, is why they are called the Comforter.
Yes. You know now for yourself James, the deep inner growing feeling of comfort you are feeling as you continue to work your way through the healing of your anti truth state. When you are living evilly, that being by denying your feelings, using your mind to dictate a lot of what you feel and thereby keeping you away from the truth of yourself, you feel bad, you feel uncomfortable, all so you are alerted to the fact - the truth - that something is not right within you. And really you should stop when you feel bad, and use those bad feelings, where you to accept and speak about all you feel, to help you go deeper into yourself to find out the reasons - the truth - of why you’re not feeling good. And were you to do this, then you’d also be calling upon the help of Mary’s and my Spirits of Truth, all of which with their unseen and mostly unfelt assistance, would make you feel better, bringing comfort and peace of mind to you, when the truth has been revealed. When you’ve uncovered it within yourself and seen it for yourself.
And does it help if one believes in you and Mary?
No, it has nothing to do with belief. It has only to do with intent, your desires and intentions. And if they are true, meaning you sincerely are longing for and wanting to uncover the truth within yourself and ALL THROUGH YOUR FEELINGS, then our Spirits of Truth will be there to readily assist you. And this happens irrespective of what else you might believe, what religion or non religion you are; and so if someone is true in their desire to uncover the truth of themselves using their feelings to guide and lead the way, then you can reveal, and WILL reveal, truth to yourself, and consequently derive a level of comfort from that truth. Truth is the ONLY thing that will make you feel truly happy, safe and secure, and help you to know you are truly loved by the Mother and Father, and that you have all rights in Creation to be as you feel you want to be - that being: living true to your truth.
So it doesn’t matter how much one prays to you or God for the truth, hoping you or God will somehow give it to you, because it’s really about getting on looking for it through your own feelings.
By all means should you feel to long to God for the truth, do so, as you are to express all such feelings, however, your whole focus, should you want to grow in truth, is to accept and express all your feelings with the sincere and earnest longing to uncover the truth of them. And then so far as how many times you might pray or go to church or do your religious duty, it’s all meaningless so far as advancing your soul in truth. Growing in truth has nothing to do with what religion you might belong to or what beliefs you might have. However many such beliefs and being part of such religions will help prevent you growing in truth because they will help you deny many of your feelings. They are all designed to put the mind first, above and before feelings, so will thwart any true and sincere soul evolution of truth. Within such religions, and just in peoples normal lives, individuals might actually inadvertently uncover some truth for themselves because they have honoured and expressed some of their feelings, and so feel good about that, but often such good feelings then get attributed to ones belief in and actions within ones religious organisation or spiritual group, all of which further confuses and keeps one bound up in such overall truth denying ventures.
So we only need ourselves and our feelings to uncover the truth, and really we don’t even have to believe in anything.
That’s right, it’s that simple, and so it should be, for it’s not that everyone on the planet has to belong to the same religion, and if they don’t belong to the right one, they are labeled evil. The truth is, from a spiritual point of view, you don’t need any of your religions, they are all only standing in the way of your feelings, of you expressing all you feel fully and truly, and so preventing you from discovering the truth for yourself within your everyday lives. In the Celestial heavens, in the greater universe, there is not one religion every spirit and angel adheres to, there is only every day life in which we all fully accept, honour, and express our feelings, all whilst longing to see and uncover what truth they are to show us; what truth our soul wants us to see - which is really, what truth the Mother and Father, the Creators of our soul, want us to see, know and live. Humanity has complicated life no end with all its religions and erroneous beliefs.
It seems almost too good to be true. So if say we stopped all such religions, just somehow gave them up, nothing bad would happen, we could all live as you say growing in truth and finding our own way.
Yes, only as you are all still bound up in your anti truth negative mind and will states, were such a thing to happen, humanity would instantly start to form new religions, all so you could keep going belonging to such truth-denying systems. You can only be and express what your truth and beliefs are, and so whilst you’re anti-truth, even if you believe you are not, you’ll continue to create for yourself an anti-truth environment. And so if one is sincerely wanting to advance ones soul in truth, and does so through honouring all ones feelings, should one be a part of a religion or spiritual system that is truth denying, then one will eventually be lead, and all through ones feelings, to end ones association with it.
Okay. So what about the Holy Spirit, where does that fit in?
The Holy Spirit has a very unique and individual role to play, that being, to bring the Divine Love when it’s sincerely longed for into the soul of the one longing for it. This is the main truth I came to impart when on Earth, and as you know, in the Padgett Messages.
You, that being every person of humanity, is born onto Earth of natural love. You are NOT born divine. You are a naturally evolved creation of this world, though, unlike all other creatures on the world, you also have a truth-evolving soul that is expressing you in life.
So we’re not higher than the animals being of divine origin?
You are higher in that as I said you have a personal soul that was created by Divine Parents, whereas all other creatures of Earth don’t, they having more of might loosely be called a collective soul, although one of a mind creation; however on the level of natural love, you are equal to your fellow creatures.
But we don’t have to stay that way.
That’s right. As I said in the Padgett Messages, and some of what is said in the Bible, because of my coming, and once again you must include Mary in this; so because of OUR coming, when we died, the Father and Mother made Their Divine Love available to you. This being what I told people when I was on Earth. That the Divine Love will become available to everyone, however you are to long to God, to your Heavenly Mother and Father for it. And why you have to ask Them for it, and it not simply being given to you by Them, is because of your being in your anti-truth, and so also, anti-love state. And in this state, you are rejecting, rebelling against, and so are anti-God. And so if you want God’s Divine Love, you are to come, or go to God, and ask Them for it. They will not just give it to you without your sincere longing for it or because of mental prayer, for if They did, They’d be interfering with your rejection of Them. Truly They love you, but They won’t stand in your way if you want to keep living against all that is love and truth. If you want to keep living against Them. They will even help you to do so.
But a lot of people believe they are loving, and surely are; and love God, feeling loved by God.
Yes, and some people will be longing truly and sincerely to God for Their Divine Love, even if They only refer to or relate to God as their Father or Creator or Allah or whatever; yet, as a result of a true and genuine longing, will receive God’s Divine Love into their soul.
And by receiving the Divine Love into your soul, you start an inner soul transformation process as I and the Celestial spirits explained in the Padgett Messages, so as to transform your natural love soul that’s been and is expressing itself in the image of God, into the very divine essence of God.
And the Holy Spirit?
It is what conveys the Divine Love directly into your soul when you are truly longing to God for it. And you can feel it come about you if you are sensitive to such things, and because of that people have described it as the Holy Ghost. You might feel a presence, a spirit, something like a cloud of light or energy come about you, and then move into you, and it will be bringing the Divine Love into your soul in response to your direct and sincere FEELING prayer or longing for it, and not in response to only mental prayers.
And I will add, that this ‘light’ of the Holy Spirit coming about is not to be confused with the unseen and yet sometimes strong light one might feel coming from the unseen influence of spirits in the mind mansion worlds, for these spirits under certain situations can exert a strong sense of a presence also being around you and moving into you, which a lot of people attribute wrongly to the presence of the Holy Spirit.
So what about people who so say they can heal using the Holy Spirit.
That is what I just said, it’s not the Holy Spirit they are working with, for the Holy Spirit ONLY conveys Divine Love into the soul, it DOES NOTHING ELSE, it’s mind spirits influencing them, if it is anything at all.
You mean some people make it up.
Like speaking in tongues and attributing that also to the Holy Spirit.
Yes, making it up or also more of the mind spirit interference. Many mind spirits have led people to believe that doing such a thing is very important, as mysterious as it seems to be, and that in some way God is speaking through these people who have ‘the gift’, but if God were to speak to you, make no mistake, They wouldn’t speak in such a garbled way like speaking in tongues.
So we can’t give the Divine Love to each other using the Holy Spirit.
No, the Holy Spirit, although it is all about you like the Spirits of Truth, only deals, as do the Spirits of Truth, with the individual concerned, it’s all very specific and personal. You are asking the Mother and Father for Their Divine Love. If you long with your heart and with feeling and so in a personal way, and not using your mind in an impersonal way, then the Mother and Father will personally respond to you, so you will feel Them loving you as you receive Their love into your soul. And once it’s in your soul there it stays, you cannot give it or any affect it might have on you to another. Nor if you pray to God asking Them to give another Divine Love will They give it to that person, for that person has to ask Them directly themselves.
And Their Love comes via the Holy Spirit because They are not directly with us.
Yes, it comes through an intermediary. It actually comes from the Divine Minster, as She attends to all such things in our universe. So when you long truly to God for Their Divine Love, She is directed by the Mother and Father to direct Her Holy Spirit to you. And as She is a divine creation, so as you partake of the Holy Spirit; which means, as the Spirit doesn’t actually move into your soul, it only bringing the Divine Love to the doorway of your soul, you are receiving Her Divine Love on behalf of the Mother and Father. And then as you progress higher in your truth ascension, once you move beyond the confines of our local universe, then you can start to receive the Divine Love more directly from the Mother and Father, and then specifically and directly from them when you attain Paradise, when you meet with Them face to face, and when They fully express Their love to you. Where you actually, whilst of a truth that confines you to our local universe, to receive God’s Love directly into your soul, it would be too much for you, you’d not be able to cope with it and it would damage your soul. So as you progress ever closer to Paradise growing through your feelings in greater truth, then so you are moving closer to being able to actually be at-one with your Mother and Father, able to receive Their love directly. And so naturally you feel you want to be with your Heavenly Parents, to be able to see and touch and hold and be with Them and feel completely loved by Them, and so naturally you are aspiring to be with Them on Paradise.
So on Paradise we can actually see and hold and touch God!?
You’ll see what I mean by that James, when you get there.