Mary: As we’ve told you James, they are part of the completion of our age. Jesus said he would come again, meaning he would come again imparting the truths he imparted when he was first on Earth but which have been largely lost by humanity, this he did through James Padgett. The Urantia Book was given to you so as to bring you up to date spiritually with the universal and personal concepts that humanity has evolved, touched on, had revealed to, over the ages, all so you can gain something of an idea as to where you stand and where you might want to go. And now it’s officially my chance to come again with Jesus, this being through our revelation to you, all we’re writing about together. And so you are including the essentials of what was revealed to humanity in the Padgett Messages; the essentials of what was revealed to you in The Urantia Book, and allowing me to have my say, allowing the Feminine Aspect of Truth, the Universal Creator Daughter of Truth, her say. And I must say James, I am relishing it. I have waited so long for this to happen, having to sit tight and hold my tongue whilst the Celestials were able to accompany Jesus with James Padgett, but now to finally be free to come with him, with our coming united as one, as the true soul-pair that we are; and our being able to speak about all that concerns us equally; yes, I’ve waited a long time for it.
So Mary, at least so far as the Earth - the physical reality is concerned, as you’ve still been kept out of it having to honour the mandates of the Rebellion and Default, so you’ve not been able to progress in your relationship with us on Earth since when you were here on Earth.
That’s right James, I’ve had to remain out of it, quiet, on the side-lines, watching whilst Jesus came again to James Padgett, but unable to do anything myself.
Was it frustrating for you?
No, as I don’t feel bad about it, I don’t feel any anger or anything like that associated with it, as I completely understand why the Mother and Father have wanted it as They have. It’s just like I’ve been holding my breath, I had a lot to say when on Earth and I should have been able to say it alongside and in harmony with Jesus, adding my feminine truth perspective to everything he said about the masculine truth, but now finally I can open my mouth and say what I think and feel, letting my breath out.
So Jesus saying all those years ago that he would come again, really was something very unusual.
Yes, for ideally we would have both completed our physical bestowal and so had no reason to come back to Urantia, other than one of our routine visits as we periodically visit all the worlds and spheres in our realm. But because we both knew that humanity was going to take all Jesus said and use it to further their evilness, then it would be necessary to at some point in the future return to give you the truths you should still have. Mind you, we didn’t have to, for an Avonal Pair in theory would be more than capable of revealing all that humanity has lost, however we felt and still feel very fond of you all, even in your evilness, and so we wanted to personally be able to come back and see to it that at least you had our Spirits of Truth through our personal presence up to date, this being what we’ve been doing through you and Marion. And so our writing this together with you James, and your making it public is our returning to Earth to give humanity the truths you require; and so to finish off our age, all so people potentially are free and fully equipped spiritually - that being on a level of truth, to enter into and progress in the new age.
Mary, I can’t put my finger on it, but I feel there is something more about the Padgett Messages and The Urantia Book that I’ve not seen, I don’t even know what the feeling really is that I’m feeling about them. I love both of them and would strongly advise anyone who is interested in understanding more about the bigger picture to read them, but still... Can you shed anymore light on them for me please?
No James, it will come to you, as has it all, through your feelings. You’ll see all you need to see. What I can tell you however is that you no longer need Jesus or I to tell you such things or to confirm all that you see and uncover for yourself. You are now more than capable of doing that all on your own. However should you still want to ask us, of course you are most welcome to do so, we’ll be with you right through the remainder of your life in this capacity that we are now with you.
Jesus wants to say something about the two revelations, so I will give over to him.
Okay, thank you Mary.
James, understand that these two revelations are of themselves only part revelations, and even together they don’t make a whole revelation. And they are only part revelations because they have had to adhere to the limitations and restrictions imposed on their authors all in keeping with the Rebellion and Default, because just as Mary and I complied with such restrictions in our lives on Earth, so too did such revelations and anything else coming to you from spirit (and even the mind spirits in certain ways which they are not aware of) throughout our age. And so it’s been essential that Mary and I have bee able to come with you in all we’ve been doing, all so we can impart the whole revelation, bringing all the parts together in you as you’ve striven to live it all. And we’re feeling better by the day in that our personal work with humanity is after all these years finally being completed. It’s been something of a long dragged out affair, something that should have, as Mary said, been completed with our natural deaths, but as they were unnatural in that we were subjected to evil, so nothing has been as it ordinarily would have been. However, we are not complaining about it, only wanting to point out certain things about it. And in fact we have relished every moment of it, that it hasn’t been ordinary, that nothing in Nebadon remained the same once the Rebellion began, and that everything has been touched and somewhat altered by it giving our universe some more individuality.
I sort of understand what you mean Jesus when I apply that to my own life. Both Marion and I of late have been feeling more accepting of our bum lot, and that actually, even though we have throughout our healing felt greatly deprived of having a so-called ‘normal’ life, we wouldn’t have wanted it any other way to what it was. And we’re appreciating it more each day, just how incredible the whole thing is: to be able to be born into evil, and believe that it is the right and true way to live; then to slowly wake up realising that it’s not what it seems, and that it’s the very opposite, and none of it is good, it’s all wrong, bad and untrue; and that we don’t have to remain of it, that we can actually heal ourselves of it. And what an incredible thing the whole healing of oneself is, nothing like anything Marion and I expected it would be like. Marion was saying again that where she seems to be heading, is nothing like how she thought it would be, and she keeps getting taken further away from that.
Yes James, there is no way you could have known, for how can you when all you are is wrong and in denial of what is right and true. So everything you’ve both had to let go of, as you’ve accepted the process of allowing your soul to guide you through your feelings.
And our relationship with the world is changing daily as we change daily our relationship with ourselves.
Yes, and will continue to do so right until the end. And then you’ll be so changed and different to how you were, and able to start out developing a new relationship with each other and the world.
So Jesus, is there anything else you want to say specifically about the Padgett Messages or The Urantia Book?
No James. If someone is sincerely seeking the truth, with all we’ve talked about, and all that’s contained in your other writing, there is more than enough for people to go on with. And really, most of it is only information, which some people will of course need to help them put their healing and growth of truth into perspective, but what really one needs to do, should one be wanting to advance ones soul, is do their healing, that’s the most important part of it all. Because if you don’t want to end your rebelliousness and heal yourself of your evilness, then really none of it matters. And as Mary and I can’t speak personally about the healing as we didn’t have to do it, so our revelation and help to you is somewhat limited in that area. We can’t take the extra step and come into your pain with you, that’s not for us to do. So all we’ll be able to do is keep speaking about the truths and adding a bit more information about the conceptual side of things and how ones lives in our universe, but little else about what your actual healing might entail. Mary and I can only reach down to you so far you might say, and for the real personal hands on help that people might need with their healing, that’s not for us to give, that’s for the likes of you and Marion who have had such experiences yourselves. And it’s what now awaits humanity, to go into their pain with the intention of using it to help them uncover the truth of themselves. That’s what’s going to occupy truth-orientated souls for the ages to come, until humanity has finally healed itself of its negative state.
So in many ways Mary and I are passing the banner, and it’s a whole new way that awaits humanity as it moves into looking to live true to itself, rather than keeping on as it has done, living untrue and against itself.
Jesus, do you really think people are going to want to do their healing, it’s all so extreme all that you and Mary talk about.
It might be only because they’ve not heard or considered such things before, but if people do sincerely want to heal themselves, then there is simply no alternative James. And as always, it’s up to the individual, and as each person has a soul that’s actually driving them in life, if it should be that the Mother and Father want them to start healing themselves, then they will feel moved to do so, they’ll not be able to stop themselves. And it will only be their resistance that causes them their pain, this being what they will use to help them uncover the truth of their feelings.
So it has nothing really to do with Mary and I. We are only like everyone who is truth-knowing, living true to our souls. And all how we are and all that we do is all how our Mother and Father want us to be. We are all playing our roles, seeing what They have in store for us, and like you were saying about yourself and Marion, you can’t know, and it’s always different to what you think it might be, all of which is of course, the fun of life. It’s certainly never dull, always keeping us on our toes.
So as the Rebellion comes to an end in Nebadon, will you and Mary miss the added stimulation of it?
No, because the ramifications of it will continue to be felt for a very long time to come. Nebadon will always be changed by it, even though it was only a very localised rebellion. So there will be always be new challenges and new things for us to experience. And being perfect anyway, it’s not about needing any such stimulation, it’s simply about enjoying living your life in the perfection of the Mother and Father’s love, that of itself making you feel so totally fulfilled that you could never conceive of wanting anything else.
That sounds good.
You’ll get there James, not long now.
I feel like my back is about to break in half, and really all both Marion I wish for now is that we could just end our lives, be rid of at least all the physical pain, to finish off our healing in spirit. Of course we’d also love to finish our healing right now, or tomorrow, but we’re not looking forward to being the physical wrecks we are as we get older.
I can’t tell you anything about how it will be for you both, only to say that it won’t be anything like you think it might be.
I’ve almost given up trying to think about anything.
The best way to be James - just feel it all, allow your feelings to take you over completely, then you can give you mind its well-deserved rest.
Is that referring to how I felt about myself the other day, seeing just how hard I’ve worked my mind to move out away from my true feelings into fantasy land.
Yes, and it’s why you’re currently feeling so tired as you let go of all of that, allowing yourself to realise just how much effort you’ve put into it, and how stressful it’s all been for you.
Jesus, and Mary, thank you once again; thank you both once again for all you’ve helped me with, all you’ve said over all these years. I have loved every moment with you both, and I am coming to appreciate more what it is you’ve actually been doing and helping me with.
We’ve been glad to be of assistance James, glad that you’ve allowed us into your life in this way, glad that you’ve wanted to hear what we’ve had to say. We’ll go now as I can sense how tired you are today, and we’ll speak to you again soon.