Of course James, please go right ahead.
Oaky, thank you. So what are these mansions in heaven that John is talking about?
The Father’s house, is of course, Creation, it’s all what the Mother and Father have created so far, and is forever growing. And we, all being children of our Heavenly Parents, naturally live within Their Heavenly House, just as you live within your earthly parents house as children. So it’s been said to you that when you die, when you leave your earthly homes, you are not to worry for your Heavenly and true Soul-Parents will provide all you need, such as new places for you to live, in heaven. And they do. Every spirit, that being what you are when you come to live in the spirit worlds, is provided with a place for them to live, so you will still, should you choose to live in one, have a house and home that you can call your own. The spirit worlds are not just an empty space in which somehow you come and be happy for the rest of eternity living at-one with God. They are real places, there are houses and other buildings, great cities; there are lands, lakes, seas, trees and plants, other creatures, but all of spirit. And there are many spirit worlds, a vast number of them, all increasing in light, love and truth, the higher or further or deeper you go into Creation, with the highest and most lovely of all the worlds being Paradise, the very centre of Creation and the very home of our Mother and Father. And as you know, you on Earth being truth ascending daughters and sons are on a journey evolving your soul and personality expression, starting out on Earth and moving up progressively through all the spirit worlds to Paradise.
Okay, so, so far as our looking out into space and looking at the vastness of the universes, that is all only physical creation. And then when we live in spirit, will we be able to look out into the vastness of the spirit universes?
Yes, the physical aspect or expression of Creation is only the surface, a relatively thin veneer, like how the continental crust is as it floats around on top of the earth. The bulk of Creation is in spirit, something completely unfathomable, and still it is only in its infancy so far as what is projected for the future.
So when I die, I will have a place I can call my own in spirit.
Yes, as will everyone if that is what they want. Many people, such as native peoples who are used to living more openly out in nature and with very little of what they’d call a house or home compared to what you know as your house and home, might and do still choose to live out in the open, simply enjoying the wide open spaces or the dense forest environment they are used to, and all is provided for them. But not as it was in the physical form, but in a spirit counterpart. And a lot of westerners, people who have lived confined to houses all their lives want to live with or along side these native people, and so can, just as many natives want to see what living in a big house might be like. In the spirit worlds you are far more free to do as you please, particularly as it’s not dependent on wealth or having the amount of money you need to afford the place you’d like to live in.
It’s sounds good.
The Father and Mother want you to feel welcome in your new spirit life, that being where you’ll live - as spirits - for the rest of eternity. And so, as your parents should do for you by providing you with a loving home, They provide you with all you need.
So who builds all these homes?
The spirits do, using their minds. It’s not physical labour that’s required handling bricks and mortar, but instead what you can do with your mind. So once you come to spirit and become familiar with how to use your mind to create what you want, you can, as do many spirits, build their own homes.
And so within these spirit worlds, there are presumably lots of ‘rooms’.
Yes, sectors we call them. And within the sectors, lots of more subtle subdivisions often referred to as planes.
The sectors are generally areas of varying size for like-minded spirits to live. So if you belong to a certain religion or church you can go and live, as more than likely it’s what you’d want to do, in the sector of that religion or church. And the sectors are provided for all walks of and interests in life to be lived and fully expressed. If for example a person when arriving in spirit wants to live in their own way, something of their creation, they will be provided with their own unique sector if that’s what they want. If you belong to the Catholic Church for example, and you want to live in that Church’s vast sector, so you can, and within one of the many planes within it.
When you come to spirit, life goes on, as many spirits have communicated to you on Earth.
So what about all the ‘Chosen Ones’ stuff, those people who are going to supposedly be treated specially by God for being so good and faithful and obedient to their Faith and beliefs.
It’s all their own delusion. One’s place in the spirit worlds is only determined by ones level of truth - or lack of it. No one is singled out, everyone is equal all based on truth. So if you want to progress in your spiritual ascent, so move up and progress to higher spirit worlds on your way to Paradise, then you can only do so by evolving your soul in truth. Simply, if you don’t grow in truth, you won’t progress, which is all right if that’s how you want to be.
Jesus, in the Padgett Messages you revealed the fact that there are seven mansion worlds, the seven spirit worlds we go to live in once we leave Earth.
Yes, that’s right. Seven spirit worlds have been made available for people to live in as spirits when they die. They are solely for the use of you from Earth, they are not shared by people coming from other material worlds.
Why do we have them all for ourselves?
Because you are living in rebellion and against yourselves, truth, and all that is good. Because of the Rebellion and Default you’ve been subjected to, you are kept apart from the rest of the non-rebellious spirit universe. It would not be right for you to interfere with them, and it’s important that you work through all your evilness yourselves, including the healing of it. So humanity is confined to these seven mansion worlds, unless you choose to do your healing.
Okay, so if we want to heal ourselves of our negative state, what happens then?
There are a number of factors involved, just to make things more confusing than they already are.
Ordinarily, had Mary and I not come to your world, nor any other high Daughter or Son of God, such as an Avonal Pair, you would all die and move to live in one of the seven mansion worlds there to continue living in your negative truth-denying states by using your mind to control your feelings, and so remain unable to move or progress higher into the greater universe. You’d not be growing in truth so you’d not be able to evolve your way out of the limitations of the mansion worlds and into the higher more expansive Celestial spheres.
However, because Mary and I came, and because we liberated our Spirits of Truth, and because by our coming the Divine Love has been readily made available to you, so a way has been provided for you in the mansion worlds, should you choose to embrace it, to heal yourselves of your evilness, and ascend the mansion worlds moving into the higher Celestial spheres and onto Paradise.
But what I want to point out today James, which is the impression one gets from reading the Padgett Messages, is that it’s not simply the partaking of God’s Divine Love that entitles one to progress up the Divine Love mansion worlds to the Celestial spheres, but it’s ones growing in truth through the ongoing healing of ones negative state, by doing, as you call it, your Feeling-Healing. That being, the stopping of your feeling denial and healing any personality expression denial you might have. That being the only way you can grow in truth.
When Mary and I died, a segregation or division of the mansion worlds occurred. Those numbered 1, 2, 4, 6 (you arrive upon death in the first mansion world, or in the seventh as it’s said in The Urantia Book, just to confuse things even more) were to be retained solely for spirits wishing to continue in their mind control over their feelings way of life, so in their evilness and negative state; and those numbered 3, 5, 7 for those spirits who want to heal their feeling denial, by embracing all their feelings and expressing them to uncover their truth.
However as I said, to make it all the more confusing, those spirits who do want to do their healing, can only do so by first partaking of the Divine Love and so moving to the Divine Love mansion worlds. But this condition is soon to change, for during the next spiritual age soon to begin, provision will be made in the natural love and non-Divine Love mansion worlds, for those spirits wishing to do their healing but not wanting to long to God for Their Divine Love.
So how does this all affect us on Earth?
The same conditions apply although very subtly, and things are now changing there as well. In short, people can now do their healing, that being, seek to accept, express and uncover the truth of their feelings all with their self or natural love. They can now do it without having to directly involve God if they don’t want to. And people can of course still live as many do happily in their negative state. And then those people who want to include the Father and Mother directly by longing to Them for Their Divine Love, as has been revealed one can do in the Padgett Messages, can do so with or without their doing their Feel-Healing, with or without choosing to heal their negative truth-denying state. And for those people who do choose to do their healing whilst also longing for and receiving God’s Divine Love, they will be doing as you call it, their Soul-Healing.
Jesus I want to talk more about this and the Divine Love in later posts, but for now, keeping with the mansion worlds in this post on the Before It’s News website, it also talks about when God comes down to earth after what is said to be the second death, when all sin and error has gone, He’ll bring ‘The New Jerusalem”.
Yes, and what it’s referring to is what will happen well into humanity’s future, a time when all your sin and error, all your rebellion and so all your evilness, has been healed, both individually and collectively.
So our first so-called death, was when we fell from grace, when the Rebellion and Default was imposed on us making us evil, and the second death is when evil ‘dies’, when we’ve healed ourselves of it.
Yes. And when humanity attains a level of truth equal to that of the first Celestial sphere when it’s healed itself of all its evilness, then the Morontia Temple, as mentioned in The Urantia Book, will descend out of the spirit worlds onto the Earth. So in effect, God will be planting the heavens on Earth. The Morontia Temple being the immediate ‘Gateway’ provided for higher spirits, such as Mary and myself to come and be with people on Earth.
So this is how you might possibly come in future, you could descend from your spirit worlds using the morontial temple so people of that day could come and speak directly with you, being able to see you clearly... and would people be able to touch you?
Yes, it’s like a window into the spirit heavens being provided by the temple. We remain in our spirit forms, but are as real and solid as if we were of the physical, so yes, it’s a complete personal interaction we can have. Mary and I use such temples often when we visit other material or physical worlds who are so advanced in truth.
So this vision by John is a long term one.
Very much so James. And to add a little more confusion, the next spiritual age that’s soon to commence, will last for only one thousand years and will be a full spiritual age as talked about in The Urantia Book. It is highly unusual for this to occur now in humanity’s state of truth-denial, as such true spiritual ages don’t ordinarily come until when a humanity is much further along in its truth progress. However humanity is being granted such an intense spiritual age for the purposes of helping you turn around, to choose to end and rid yourselves of your negative state of mind and will, and to firmly begin your healing of you evilness. As The Urantia Book points out to you, all that’s happened, and indeed will continue to happen, and indeed is happening right now, is unusual and irregular concerning normal planetary proceedings.
So we have to first do the hard work of healing our negative truth-denying state before anything like the morontia temple will be earthed.
Yes. It’s hard slog that awaits humanity. But what is happening, is now at least you can begin to work on yourselves, which is something that’s not been an option previously available to you. Something you could have only found out about and done when you came to spirit, and only then if you were sincerely seeking the truth and willingly embraced the Divine Love.
So visions were obviously given to certain people but we don’t understand them.
Yes, you have to evolve into them.
So why were they given, when all they seem to do is confuse us.
It’s a natural part of the heritage of a humanity. All humanities are giving glimpses into their future. Such insights, visions and revelations are provided so as to help you see something of the track you are, to confirm ordinarily that you are going in the right direction, and to give you something to strive for. However as with everything on your world, because you are not going in the true direction, your direction being all over the place and anti the true one, all because you are denying yourselves and the truth, so as things are shown and told to you, it all gets mixed up, misinterpreted and misunderstood. So part of your destiny is to sort out the truth from the untruth, which people will do as they seek to heal themselves of their evilness and untruth.
And what you have in the Bible, is only a part representation of what was originally said to those who received such things. Most of what is in the Bible has been tampered with at one time or another, hence its difficulty in giving you the understanding and insights you need. And because of this, it is why The Urantia Book was brought into being, to help you understand and make sense of certain things, but not all, as it too (as well as the Padgett Messages) is severely limited by conditions imposed on it that it had to adhere to, as Mary and I did: all the restrictions of the Rebellion and Default.
Jesus, I’m sorry but I have to go, it’s breakfast time. Thank you again for all you’ve said.
You’re most welcome James. Mary and I are enjoying having our say. We’ll speak to you soon.