I came with the Celestial Spirits to Mr James Padgett early last century to reveal the essential truth that Mary and I came to your world for, to reveal it to our whole universe. And it was that you are created in the image of God, in what you might call natural love, that being your own self love, that love that is nature and sustains all of natural Creation. And when you have progressed to a certain level in your natural love, that equivalent to the highest mansion world, then you are ready to move out into the higher or inner and deeper levels of the universe, that which in the Padgett Messages I simply referred to as the Celestial spheres, doing so with the help of the Divine Love.
So Jesus, natural love is all what we might call the natural light of Creation, the love or light that sustains everything that God creates in Creation.
Yes, that’s right.
And is there any difference between light and love?
And humanity of Urantia - Earth, like all humanities in Nebadon on all the physical worlds as spoken about in The Urantia Book, is its own unique expression of natural love. And each of you are your own unique expression of natural love, that being expressed by your soul.
And ordinarily, had you not been interfered with by the rebellious higher spirits and turned away from, or against, the truth, you’d have progressed or evolved up through the levels over the spiritual ages, to one day reach that of the highest mansion world. So you’d have grown in your natural love perfection to that level. But because you’d still be of the mansion worlds, you’d remain confined to them. And unless one partakes of a greater love than ones natural love, one cannot spiritually progress higher into the Celestial spheres.
So on a normal world, by the time the majority of people and spirits in the mansion worlds progressed to the highest mansion world of truth, the seventh as you number them James, then a higher love would be made available to them. And that love is what we call the Divine Love, and it comes directly from God via the Divine Minister here in Nebadon, and is brought into your soul, by Her, Holy Spirit.
And when the people and spirits would be ready for the Divine Love, then, as The Urantia Book points out, a Higher Son (and Daughter, which it doesn’t reveal) - a Higher Spiritual Pair, would come and bestow themselves on that world, be born naturally, and grow up through the seven mansion worlds of natural love perfection; but being of a divine origin, that being what is within their soul and not of a natural origin having been evolved from the Earth as are all people and spirits from Earth are; they would tell - reveal - for they would know it from within themselves, that God, being their true loving Mother and Father, desire all people and mansion world spirits to have Their Love - the Divine Love. And so the Divine Minister would make the Divine Love available to all those people and spirits who so desired to advance their souls from being in the image of God and of natural love, to becoming of the essence of God, as God is Themselves so far as Their Love is concerned, by partaking of the Mother and Father’s Divine Love. And how you long for the Divine Love I spoke about in the Padgett Messages. And all of this pertains to a normal world, not one like yours that is in rebellion and default.
And so by Mary’s and your coming, and making the Divine Love available to us, as you said in the Padgett Messages, telling us that we can long to God for it, we can do that within our evilness, way before we manage to evolve our truth and natural love to the seventh mansion world.
Yes. The Mother and Father are offering you Their Love whilst you are of your negative states of mind and will, all so you can begin to know Them. And all to help you relinquish your self-denial.
And as Mary was saying, so we can transform any natural love within us as we do our healing, by partaking of the Divine Love.
But it’s very much around the wrong way, isn’t it? I mean, why did the Mother and Father do that? I can understand that it was too good an opportunity for you and Mary to miss out on, so you came to our world to experience what living in evil is, what being openly and directly rejected, feels like... And so because of that, because of your coming, by the nature of your soul, you had to liberate the Divine Love, as that’s what your bestowal life was to do irrespective of whether you came to a perfect natural love world ready for the Divine Love or one in such a mess like ours. I think I’ve answered my own question.
We came to say to the whole of Nebadon that the Mother and Father love you all, and that Their Divine Love is now available for all to have; however, that is all who are of a natural love level of truth and able to receive it, notwithstanding what we’ve said about humanity and it being offered to you whilst you’re denying truth and love, you being the exception to the rule.
BUT, and this is a big but, that doesn’t mean that all you have to do is long to God for Their Divine Love, and all your healing, the whole rectification of your negative state, all your evilness, will be instantly removed from you. It won’t I’m afraid, even though the Padgett Messages are a little misleading in this. You will still have to do your healing, however you can do it with the inclusion of the Divine Love, so what you call James, the doing of your soul-healing, because you will be setting out to heal all of your soul and at the same time, transforming it as you progress into becoming divine.
Okay, and so for those people who read the Padgett Messages and think that’s all they have to do, long for the Divine Love and you’ll be healed, that’s not how it is.
No, they will still have to do their healing. If they were living in the mind mansion worlds, they would move to the Divine Love mansion worlds, or feeling-worlds as you’ve been calling them of late James (to distinguish them on the natural love level from the mind mansion worlds), and set about doing their healing as they worked their way up the Divine Love worlds. And effectively that’s what people will be doing on Earth should they want to do their healing with the inclusion of the Divine Love.
Jesus, also in the Padgett Messages, another thing that is very misleading, which we’ve spoken a lot about, as it took me ages to work it out and understand it, is that you say, or it seems like you say, the mind worlds as I call them, are the natural love worlds, and those mind spirits are in fact working towards perfecting their natural love, when in fact they aren’t, as they are still working at perfecting their evilness or their self-denial and negative state.
That’s right James. It will not be until those spirits who do their feeling-healing, not wanting to include the Divine Love, and who will be given their specific sectors in the mind worlds in which to live, who will be truly working toward perfecting their natural love. And of course at any time, as it will still also be for the mind spirits, can they long for the Divine Love during the course of the next spiritual age, because the Divine Love is going to remain available to humanity for that age, so for the next 1000 years of that age.
So how will it remain available, when yours and Mary’s age is ending?
Ah James, the subject of another post at another time.
All right then. But the Divine Love, as you said in the Padgett Messages, is going to be withdrawn for a time after the end of the next spiritual age.
Yes, that is what is to happen. Then humanity on Earth, and in mansion worlds, as it will also be withdrawn from there too, will work at perfecting its natural love, just like it would have done had the Rebellion and Default not interfered with it.
And then presumably when humanity does reach the upper seventh mansion world of natural love perfection, the Divine Love will be made available again, that requiring yet another bestowal Pair: Avonals.
Yes, there will be another pair who will come and fully bestow themselves on Earth making the Divine Love once again freely available when that times comes. And they will be Avonals, for as I’ve told you, Mary and I WILL NOT be coming again in flesh on a full bestowal.
Okay, so what about The Urantia Book saying that as you’ve come, there will be no further full bestowals.
That applies to ordinary worlds in ordinary situations, on which ordinarily there would only be one full Paradise Daughter and Son bestowal, because the world would be of the perfect natural love level requiring it. On Urantia, as The Urantia Book also says, it comes under Mary’s and my personal jurisdiction, and nothing, as you know from your lives on your world, happens as you might expect. And so nothing will. And so there are other full bestowals to come.
Bestowals? You’ve mentioned one, but...
And that too I’m keeping for another day, as actually it is not for me to say about such things, it’s for those people concerned.
The Avonal pair themselves.
Jesus, on that point, I’m going to stop now, it’s dinner time. Thank you once again for all you’ve said.
It’s my pleasure James. We’ve covered all I wanted to say for now anyway. We’ll talk more when you want to. Bye now - Jesus.